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Ryan Jones's avatar

I think Langan's statement could be called, "chopping down a tree to grow the forest". Yes, uncertainty of measurement between observers does exist, but that doesn't exclude science being about truth. In this respect I agree with Poincaré. The exchange between Heisenberg and Einstein is interesting as well, and brings the concept of visibility to the question of what constitutes good science. Does Newton's gravitational 'constant' exist even though we cannot observe it directly, but only infer it? Does inference form a sort of 'observation' itself? Is imagination a form of observation, albeit a more uncertain one? It seems to me that acknowledging uncertainty and finding truth are both essential for the scientific method.

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Mary, Maria Pavic's avatar

That's perfect. That's beautiful:

"Moreover, the truth that Science seeks is not some “personal truth”. Scientific Truth has a value only when it is shared. Sharing fosters objectivity. It also enables us to serve others."

Truly a philosopher. Science was never about a personal truth, it was always about sharing. What would a man do without a woman, and they without a child? There would be no anything. Science objectifying them from themselves, to each other, to one another, expands the beloved truth. Of course, symbolism. One needs some description of where they came from, and using the tools we have here, we find the answers. Many try to fight against the truth when told, at the same time, they could be saying that which the other had said, but in their own way or words, and so, objectivity is an important way to get to know how the others around you complement and complete one another while allowing each other the gift that was given to us, to grow.

Anyway, enough of my poetry. I have had such a difficult day, and yet, when I read excellent expressions such as yours, an intelligent being, it picks me up and helps me back on my way. Appreciated. I wish there were only intelligent beings, but that's personal, not objective, and hence, haha, difficult... when one has to realign with what they forgot, but never forgot to begin with. If all our difficulties are because of not realizing our own true self, then there needs to be a science to hurry up, take your time, to find the answer to everyone's true being, bridge it, grab it, hold it, and observe along in that joyous heart of ours all together. Hahaha.

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